OMG UPDATE: Question? Answer.

Updated on Friday, May 9

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QUESTION: How much tip do you give at restaurants? Do you still feel you should give tips if you think the restaurant is overpriced?

(I just ate at an overpriced restaurant today and did not leave tip.. I'm not sure if I should feel bad about it)

48 comments

  1. You should feel bad. I generally tip 20%, but doing so is a little high.

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  2. I agree with 1 - you should feel bad.

    I tip between 13-15%. If the waiter/waitress was subpar, 10%, and if they were particularly good, 20%.

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  3. 10%, but I only eat at uni plaza so...

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  4. Servers only make around $6/hour I think (may have raised since I was working in a restaurant) which is much less than minimum wage (around $10.25 I think) because it is assumed they will make most of their money from tips. Always tip around 15%, round down if it was bad service and up if it was good (or tip higher of course).

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    1. In Ontario servers are supposed to make about ~$9/hour, and that is only if the restaurant serves alcohol. If the restaurant does not serve alcohol then the servers should be paid regular minimum wage.

      http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/pubs/guide/minwage.php

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  5. I always tip at least the tax.

    And yes, you should feel bad

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  6. I tip only if the service is good. If I get a bitchy server who can't be bothered to do their job then no tip.

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    1. Same, but I find that rarely happens and only if service was absolutely horrible. Most servers know this. If they mess up/don't do their job well I'll tip smaller but I will still tip

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    2. @6.a I agree 100%

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    3. As I mention in comment #7, I don't really agree with this notion because of the vast number of restaurants that are sharing their tips amongst the kitchen. Sure, it's not like a majority stake is finding its way back there, but stiffing a server is stiffing the person who made your potentially delicious meal for you, too.

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  7. If you don't tip, you should feel bad. It's how your server lives. Restaurants push the cost of labour onto the consumer by trusting you to tip them. Yes, it's an exploitative racket. No, you're not actually impacted by it in any way - if tipping did not exist, the restauranteur would up all his prices to compensate for having to pay his servers a fair wage. It's not your place to enact social change by being a stiff, either.

    I like to tip around 22% (which is where tipping creep has been circling in the US for a little while now). When I pay with cash, I don't like doing math so I just throw coins or bills at the bill in an attempt to ballpark it. I think the most I ever tipped was 40%, at a really fancy place.

    I don't like tipping based on the quality of service, either, since the tips are often partially divvied up into the kitchen (also, I don't appreciate the power dynamic involved in being able to hold tipping over a server's head). If my food was mouldy and the server spat on me I might consider not tipping at all. Otherwise, I'll probably tip my usual.

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    1. First off, any tipping creep is in your head and in those of the kind of people who like to tell others how much they tip. (40% at a fancy place. You're really classy, and now we know!)

      Second of all, not tipping based on quality of service just results in mediocre service. If someone did a great job serving me and made my experience better then 20% is definitely deserved. If on the other had I could have just as easily picked the food up myself (and maybe more attentively than they did) then 0% is what they've earned. If the kitchen staff is shit then the whole restaurant should suffer. Same with the servers, hostesses, etc. Otherwise we end up with the mediocre places that persist because people feel sorry for the people working there. Its the service industry, so if they can't provide good service they should be doing something else.

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    2. You seem really judgemental that I told people how much I've tipped at restaurants in an OMGUW ASK about how much commenters tip at restaurants.

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  8. I alway tip 20%. I maybe poor but I am not cheap.

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  9. Stop considering tipping optional in your cost analysis of eating out and you'll cease to have this problem. The way you solve an issue of an overpriced restaurant is you give a less stellar tip and don't eat there again, not no tip at all because you made a bad choice. You can't just walk out and say you're not going to pay, after all...

    15% is standard in Canada. 20% is standard in the US. (ugh) Add/subtract 5% for quality. If the tip would be less than a dollar, I always round up to a dollar. I don't tip for takeout because you're not getting any service.

    The only times I've left a 0% tip was when the food or service was so abominably bad that I couldn't justify leaving anything but a note. I will always try to fix the problem with the manager in cases like this first. 0% is a last resort.

    Last, for the "40% for expensive, classy places"... wtf? On a $350 bill for two people, 20% is already $70. There's really no need to pay any more than that. I'm making money but not so much that I don't know what to do with it, that just seems wasteful...

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    1. 9 you don't tip for takeout? I do. I appreciate the cooks and staff getting my meal tasty and fast. I consider that service. They may not get paid much. I agree with everything else you said.

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    2. Most places don't even give you the opportunity to tip for takeout. Note that takeout is a whole different beast than delivery.

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  10. I wouldn't but that's because where I come from it is considered extremely rude to do so. Honestly tipping culture is so stupid. Up the prices and pay waiters minimum wages.

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  11. OP, not leaving a tip at an expensive restaurant is unacceptable if the service was good. If you can't afford to leave a tip, you can't afford to eat out. Prices are usually on the menu, and you can often tell by the sort of atmosphere what the price range of a place will be. There is no excuse not to leave a tip when you've received good service.



    Tl;dr: If you can't afford to leave a tip when you're eating out (and you received good service), you can't afford to eat out.

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  12. I, too, am guilty of this sometimes :/ Mostly I disagree with the practice of tipping in the first place, but I realize the server shouldn't be punished for that. They should really just be fairly compensated for their work.

    I would say 13-15% is appropriate (pre-tax), rounded to whatever is an even number. Personally, I have no problem with 10% and 0 if the service is really, really bad.

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  13. As a server, good service is rewarded with 15%. 20% or more is for outstanding service, and 10% is for poor service. Not tipping is if you've had a terrible experience and the manager did not resolve the issue before you left.

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    1. Why should I reward poor service with 10%?

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    2. Because tipping hasn't been about "rewarding" good service since the minimum wages for jobs with large proportions of tip income was lowered. If these people were being paid the same as the dishwashers, you'd have a point. (Although in some places, the tips are split with everyone including kitchen staff and dishwashers...)

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  14. If I can't afford to properly tip at a restaurant, I just don't go.

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  15. I generally tip 15% at the very least, but usually hover in the 18-20 place. I've been told that tipping at asian food places (such as any AYCE sushi place) shouldn't be done because the money goes straight to the management. However I tip regardless because I don't actually know that for sure and I don't want my waiter/waitress to think they did anything wrong (although I never seem to get the correct number of green dragon rolls)

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  16. I tip 15% if it's generic service, 20-25% if it's good service, 10% if it's bad service, and no tip if I'm appalled. I've worked in restaurants since I was 14 and I understand how much servers rely on tips so I try to tip 15%+ most of the time.

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  17. If you can't afford to work a job without earning tips then you shouldn't be working that job.

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    1. Then who will bring you your food you cheap booty hole. I hope you never go out to eat. I especially hope you don't go out to eat on deal nights at restaurants since the restaurant can only afford to make those deals available to you by paying servers less than minimum wage. If you don't like the system don't go out to eat.

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    2. ^ What a shit rebuttal.

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  18. 15% for bad service. 20% other wise

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  19. usually 15%. Aren't waiters/waitresses making minimum wage already though ($10.25 if they don't serve alcohol)? So they'd be making the same if they were working retail for example, but with tips they actually make more. How come so many posts say that they get a lower min wage? Maybe for liquor servers they make $1.35 less than general min wage, but surely they make it up in tips by just one customer per hour..

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    1. This is what I don't understand! Servers feel like they're entitled to tips instead of earning them. I'm sure even the smallest tip per hour makes up for the difference from the minimum wage. There are a lot of us who work just as hard if not harder and earn much less. The entitlement needs to stop.

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    2. Serving wage in ontario is 8.90 an hour. The reason why servers do this job is because of the tips. If servers made minimum wage every restaurant would be staffed with highschoolers working their first shitty job. Simply put, the shit that you have to deal with as a server from entitled customers wouldn't be worth it without the tip. I'm not saying all customers are bad, but there are enough bad ones out there that any good server wouldn't care to work in the service industry anymore if they got cut down to minimum wage without tips. I do agree that servers should not be entitled, if you want a good tip you need to earn it with friendly and prompt service.

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  20. LOL at some of the people thinking they're good people for tipping 20%+ regularly

    congrats you're a retard and now waiters/waitresses have higher and higher expectations of tips while providing service of lower quality

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  21. I don't expect much from waiters & waitresses, so I almost always pay 15%. I only pay 20% or more if both the food and the service was noticeably great. If it was noticeably bad, they get 10%.

    I've never tipped for takeout... although places like William's and other cafes that bring you your food are strange, still not sure what to do at those kinds of places..

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  22. My friend used to make more in 4 hours of serving than I would working 8 hours at minimum wage. Fuck tip-culture, all you're doing by tipping is enabling the imbalance to continue.

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    1. Try serving people.

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    2. +1 to you #23! I do manual labour- that's far harder than any serving job.

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  23. Why would you eat at a place if you can't afford to tip there?

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  24. Everyone at some point in their life should have to try serving. It makes you realize how many people out there have no respect, no manners and are just plain rude. You quickly realize how ugly those qualities make a person look who chooses to act like that in public to a complete stranger (who is just doing their job, which is why you came to a restaurant..to be served in the first place). It makes you respect people so much more, and appreciate when others are kind so much more as well.

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    1. +1. Didn't think much about my dismissive attitude until I had a family member go into hotel service. The stories he told me about rude customers made me feel angry, & I promised to always give my brightest smile to every server I meet.

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  25. I tip $2 in general, $1 if service was bad, nothing if horrible. $5 if I'm really feeling generous, and the server did an exceptionally good job.

    Rarely if ever I get a meal which costs me over $20.

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  26. Serving for tips = indoor squeegee kids

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  27. I like how people are defending tipping by saying how much it sucks being a server, as if it doesn't suck doing any other service job. Basically any service job you're stuck dealing with entitled customer assholes, and serving is the only one where you get tips for doing it. And the people who say that chain restaurants pay their waiters/waitresses so little because they can't afford it are just plain clueless.

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  28. You should always tip your server no matter where you go. As long as there is alcohol served at the restaurant servers make $8.90/hour. This is because it is expected that the server will receive tips. Serving shifts are also very short (4 hours max) so servers so not make much money on wage alone. If you can't afford to tip your server don't go out or go to a restaurant you can actually afford

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  29. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/have-we-reached-a-non-tipping-point/article18583680/#dashboard/follows/

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  30. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/no-tip-restaurants-fight-to-gain-traction-1.2640476

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