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QUESTION: What's the current hierarchy for engineering programs? (As in most prestigious to least)

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  1. Tron > Software > ECE > Mech > All other eng > Management Eng

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    1. you could merge tron software and ece into one fuckball, cause in the end 90% of the kids end up as code monkeys anyway

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    2. what? that has nothing to do with OP's question

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  2. Tron = ECE > Software > Nano > Mech = Geo > Civil > Systems > Biomedical > Environmental > Management

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    1. Not in Engineering but this seems about right

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    2. Awkward moment when there's no biomedical but there is chemical

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    3. How is Geo harder than Civil, and especially Environmental? They take half the same courses!!

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    4. At 2B, biomedical is starting in the fall.

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    5. @2b: That's pretty funny that I forgot Chem, I'd probably throw them around where Civil/Systems/Biomed are.
      @2c: For the first year and a half, maybe.

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    6. I agree with 2. Civil enviro and geo's courses aren't that similar. I heard almost half of geo's upper year courses are earth sciences. Their workload not only comes from engineering faculty but also earth science department

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    7. I think software and tron are more "prestigious" than ECE but in terms of difficulty of the program this is about right.

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  3. What about financial engineering? (Not available at UW)

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  4. I'm in Tron (second year), and a bit surprised by the "ratings". ECE looks way harder from the outside.

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    1. tron is easily more "prestigious", not sure how they compare when it comes to difficulty.

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  5. Tron at the top? Nope

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    1. I would understand putting ECE over it, but not much else. What do you think is better?

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    2. Systems maybe

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    3. I would disagree, the really general approach the degree takes to everything I'd say leads to not-so-great knowledge in most areas. Your mileage may vary though.

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  6. I love being in Maneng.

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  7. Oh god. There's a hierarchy in engineering too?

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  8. This is why we have no school spirit, we are too obsessed over which program is the best, and less about how much better we are than any other school.

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    1. i don't think school spirit has anything to do with this honestly. it's a fact that some programs are harder than the others and i don't see a problem of asking about the hardness of the program. OP might have used a slightly inappropriate word (prestigious), but i guess overall he just wants to know the difficulty level of the program. and everyone knows our school is well-known for the engineering program, competing among themselves (in a good way) can sometimes pull up the standards of something our school is already proud of, cant it?

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  9. Tron > [ECE Software Nano] > [Mech Syde] > others

    To be fair, this is purely speculative. I don't know anything outside my program. The answer is also subjective and dependant on your strengths. If you're a breadth first type person, Tron and Syde are probably easier. For a depth first person, the specialist programs are probably easier.

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    1. Agreed except ECE|Software > Nano. Rest is the same.

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  10. Top tier: Tron >> Software > ECE >> Nano >> SYDE/Mech
    The rest: Civil/Geo > Chem/Biomed? > Enviro > Management

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    1. I'm not sure about Biomed's courses, there's nothing to compare against. For example "Physics of Medical Imaging", "Engineering Biology" Also, there's likely to be a lot of competition entering the program, resulting in a high quality group of students.

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    2. Biomed is a special branch of SYDE, there is a shitton of overlap in the courses. It will likely rank the same as SYDE once things mellow out, but the courseload may change which will affect it.

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  11. Please. Tron as the top engineering you have got to be kidding me.
    Get over yourself trons, you're all unemployed anyway.

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    1. Also is anyone forgetting to mention that 80% of mechanical & mechatronics is the same? There's a reason they are part of the 'Mechanical & Mechatronics' department.

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    2. ^Whoa really? Source? Aside from 1A (where all programs are pretty much the same) it looks very different. https://uwaterloo.ca/mechanical-mechatronics-engineering/program-overview

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    3. The source is he's talking out of his ass.

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    4. @11a sounds like you're making an assumption based on how similar EE and CE are. MME is not at all structured like ECE.

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    5. The reason the courses are labelled differently is because Tron doesn't do as much study of mechanics (obviously) therefore they study these in less detail than mechanical.

      Granted, tron does do more programming than mechanical.
      Which is why I said 80%.

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  12. The source is he's talking out of his ass.

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    1. Managed to not reply to 11. Crap.

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  13. Top to bottom:
    - Systems and ECE
    - Tron
    - Nano
    - Mechanical
    - Software
    - Civil
    - Chem
    ....
    - Biomed
    - Environment
    - Management

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    1. Why is systems so high? Have you seen their capstone projects? "prestigious" is hardly the word, nor is "difficult"

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    2. i agree that ECE would top the list, but certainly not syde. and what's with the "..."? and where are the geos? have you forgotten about them?

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    3. 13 here. You're right 13a, their capstones are not amazing by any stretch. It is hard to judge. Nano seems cool but none of them get jobs I have heard.

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    4. >Software under Nano and Mech
      Top kek

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  14. I'm looking at CECA statistics, across the 2A engineering classes. As of April 10th, employment rates are:

    All Engineering - 69%

    Comp 85%
    Elec 69%
    Mech 64%
    Tron 81%
    Syde 82%

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    1. No software?

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    2. couldn't find it, It's not listed under ENG as SE

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    3. You'll find it under VPA SE, since they are dual faculty.

      Don't see any 2A students but as of April 10th, 1A students have 79% employment, so there's that.

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  15. I feel like this should be evaluated by several different factors including:
    - admission difficulty
    - program difficulty
    - co-op employability
    - recent alumni accomplishments

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    1. the faculty has done a bunch of heavy lifting for us

      https://uwaterloo.ca/engineering/future-undergraduate-students/application-process/admission-averages

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    2. Admission difficulty has only to do with popularity of the program at any given time. Whichever program happens to have the most people with high averages one year will be the "most difficult to get in to" even though it varies a LOT. The bar that is set by the university is actually the same across all the programs. It's a common misunderstanding.

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    3. but the question at hand is "prestige" which is related to popularity.

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  16. better question, who cares

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    1. Do you not see the 50+ people in this thread that care?

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    2. I don't think environment/management/geo kids really give a shit about this at all. they get some kick ass jobs so....

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    3. @16b: If by "kick ass job" you mean stuck in Alberta in solitude, then sure...

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  17. .....what about architecture....:D

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    1. architecture is sorta strange to include, it's in the engineering faculty by name only. It'll be like comparing oranges to apples.

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