I agree with 2. Civil enviro and geo's courses aren't that similar. I heard almost half of geo's upper year courses are earth sciences. Their workload not only comes from engineering faculty but also earth science department
I would disagree, the really general approach the degree takes to everything I'd say leads to not-so-great knowledge in most areas. Your mileage may vary though.
i don't think school spirit has anything to do with this honestly. it's a fact that some programs are harder than the others and i don't see a problem of asking about the hardness of the program. OP might have used a slightly inappropriate word (prestigious), but i guess overall he just wants to know the difficulty level of the program. and everyone knows our school is well-known for the engineering program, competing among themselves (in a good way) can sometimes pull up the standards of something our school is already proud of, cant it?
To be fair, this is purely speculative. I don't know anything outside my program. The answer is also subjective and dependant on your strengths. If you're a breadth first type person, Tron and Syde are probably easier. For a depth first person, the specialist programs are probably easier.
I'm not sure about Biomed's courses, there's nothing to compare against. For example "Physics of Medical Imaging", "Engineering Biology" Also, there's likely to be a lot of competition entering the program, resulting in a high quality group of students.
Biomed is a special branch of SYDE, there is a shitton of overlap in the courses. It will likely rank the same as SYDE once things mellow out, but the courseload may change which will affect it.
Also is anyone forgetting to mention that 80% of mechanical & mechatronics is the same? There's a reason they are part of the 'Mechanical & Mechatronics' department.
^Whoa really? Source? Aside from 1A (where all programs are pretty much the same) it looks very different. https://uwaterloo.ca/mechanical-mechatronics-engineering/program-overview
The reason the courses are labelled differently is because Tron doesn't do as much study of mechanics (obviously) therefore they study these in less detail than mechanical.
Granted, tron does do more programming than mechanical. Which is why I said 80%.
13 here. You're right 13a, their capstones are not amazing by any stretch. It is hard to judge. Nano seems cool but none of them get jobs I have heard.
I feel like this should be evaluated by several different factors including: - admission difficulty - program difficulty - co-op employability - recent alumni accomplishments
Admission difficulty has only to do with popularity of the program at any given time. Whichever program happens to have the most people with high averages one year will be the "most difficult to get in to" even though it varies a LOT. The bar that is set by the university is actually the same across all the programs. It's a common misunderstanding.
Tron > Software > ECE > Mech > All other eng > Management Eng
ReplyDeleteyou could merge tron software and ece into one fuckball, cause in the end 90% of the kids end up as code monkeys anyway
Deletewhat? that has nothing to do with OP's question
DeleteTron = ECE > Software > Nano > Mech = Geo > Civil > Systems > Biomedical > Environmental > Management
ReplyDeleteNot in Engineering but this seems about right
DeleteAwkward moment when there's no biomedical but there is chemical
DeleteHow is Geo harder than Civil, and especially Environmental? They take half the same courses!!
DeleteAt 2B, biomedical is starting in the fall.
Delete@2b: That's pretty funny that I forgot Chem, I'd probably throw them around where Civil/Systems/Biomed are.
Delete@2c: For the first year and a half, maybe.
I agree with 2. Civil enviro and geo's courses aren't that similar. I heard almost half of geo's upper year courses are earth sciences. Their workload not only comes from engineering faculty but also earth science department
DeleteAgreed
DeleteI think software and tron are more "prestigious" than ECE but in terms of difficulty of the program this is about right.
DeleteWhat about financial engineering? (Not available at UW)
ReplyDeleteFor good reason
DeleteLOL
Deletewhat do they even do lmao
DeleteI'm in Tron (second year), and a bit surprised by the "ratings". ECE looks way harder from the outside.
ReplyDeletetron is easily more "prestigious", not sure how they compare when it comes to difficulty.
DeleteTron at the top? Nope
ReplyDeleteI would understand putting ECE over it, but not much else. What do you think is better?
DeleteSystems maybe
DeleteI would disagree, the really general approach the degree takes to everything I'd say leads to not-so-great knowledge in most areas. Your mileage may vary though.
DeleteI love being in Maneng.
ReplyDeleteMe too!
DeleteOh god. There's a hierarchy in engineering too?
ReplyDeletehahahahahaa +1
DeleteYou have no idea my friend.
DeleteThis is why we have no school spirit, we are too obsessed over which program is the best, and less about how much better we are than any other school.
ReplyDeletei don't think school spirit has anything to do with this honestly. it's a fact that some programs are harder than the others and i don't see a problem of asking about the hardness of the program. OP might have used a slightly inappropriate word (prestigious), but i guess overall he just wants to know the difficulty level of the program. and everyone knows our school is well-known for the engineering program, competing among themselves (in a good way) can sometimes pull up the standards of something our school is already proud of, cant it?
DeleteTron > [ECE Software Nano] > [Mech Syde] > others
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, this is purely speculative. I don't know anything outside my program. The answer is also subjective and dependant on your strengths. If you're a breadth first type person, Tron and Syde are probably easier. For a depth first person, the specialist programs are probably easier.
Agreed except ECE|Software > Nano. Rest is the same.
DeleteTop tier: Tron >> Software > ECE >> Nano >> SYDE/Mech
ReplyDeleteThe rest: Civil/Geo > Chem/Biomed? > Enviro > Management
I'm not sure about Biomed's courses, there's nothing to compare against. For example "Physics of Medical Imaging", "Engineering Biology" Also, there's likely to be a lot of competition entering the program, resulting in a high quality group of students.
DeleteBiomed is a special branch of SYDE, there is a shitton of overlap in the courses. It will likely rank the same as SYDE once things mellow out, but the courseload may change which will affect it.
DeletePlease. Tron as the top engineering you have got to be kidding me.
ReplyDeleteGet over yourself trons, you're all unemployed anyway.
Also is anyone forgetting to mention that 80% of mechanical & mechatronics is the same? There's a reason they are part of the 'Mechanical & Mechatronics' department.
Delete^Whoa really? Source? Aside from 1A (where all programs are pretty much the same) it looks very different. https://uwaterloo.ca/mechanical-mechatronics-engineering/program-overview
DeleteThe source is he's talking out of his ass.
Delete@11a sounds like you're making an assumption based on how similar EE and CE are. MME is not at all structured like ECE.
DeleteThe reason the courses are labelled differently is because Tron doesn't do as much study of mechanics (obviously) therefore they study these in less detail than mechanical.
DeleteGranted, tron does do more programming than mechanical.
Which is why I said 80%.
The source is he's talking out of his ass.
ReplyDeleteManaged to not reply to 11. Crap.
DeleteTop to bottom:
ReplyDelete- Systems and ECE
- Tron
- Nano
- Mechanical
- Software
- Civil
- Chem
....
- Biomed
- Environment
- Management
Why is systems so high? Have you seen their capstone projects? "prestigious" is hardly the word, nor is "difficult"
Deletei agree that ECE would top the list, but certainly not syde. and what's with the "..."? and where are the geos? have you forgotten about them?
Delete13 here. You're right 13a, their capstones are not amazing by any stretch. It is hard to judge. Nano seems cool but none of them get jobs I have heard.
Delete>Software under Nano and Mech
DeleteTop kek
I'm looking at CECA statistics, across the 2A engineering classes. As of April 10th, employment rates are:
ReplyDeleteAll Engineering - 69%
Comp 85%
Elec 69%
Mech 64%
Tron 81%
Syde 82%
No software?
Deletecouldn't find it, It's not listed under ENG as SE
DeleteYou'll find it under VPA SE, since they are dual faculty.
DeleteDon't see any 2A students but as of April 10th, 1A students have 79% employment, so there's that.
I feel like this should be evaluated by several different factors including:
ReplyDelete- admission difficulty
- program difficulty
- co-op employability
- recent alumni accomplishments
the faculty has done a bunch of heavy lifting for us
Deletehttps://uwaterloo.ca/engineering/future-undergraduate-students/application-process/admission-averages
Admission difficulty has only to do with popularity of the program at any given time. Whichever program happens to have the most people with high averages one year will be the "most difficult to get in to" even though it varies a LOT. The bar that is set by the university is actually the same across all the programs. It's a common misunderstanding.
Deletebut the question at hand is "prestige" which is related to popularity.
Deletebetter question, who cares
ReplyDeleteDo you not see the 50+ people in this thread that care?
DeleteI don't think environment/management/geo kids really give a shit about this at all. they get some kick ass jobs so....
Delete@16b: If by "kick ass job" you mean stuck in Alberta in solitude, then sure...
Delete.....what about architecture....:D
ReplyDeletearchitecture is sorta strange to include, it's in the engineering faculty by name only. It'll be like comparing oranges to apples.
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