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Updated on Monday, January 27

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QUESTION: Serious question. What is your opinion on the theories of r/theredpill? (And please state if male or female)

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  1. Let me rephrase your question: are you obscenely misogynistic or not? State male or female.

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  2. What about the blue pill?

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  3. True to some degree, depends on what your looking for.

    "Playing the game" will probably get you the girl, but it won't last in the long run. If you're looking for short term satisfaction, then yes, if you are an attractive guy that's smooth with words, and projects overall confidence, you'll get a lot of girls. If one doesn't respond, next her.

    Everyone's guarded, and it's hard to trust people, but a real emotional connection is entirely possible also. No games in a real relationship, because your SO is your team mate. It's you and them against the world.

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  4. Female here. I've been on theredpill a few times, so here is my limited perception of it:
    First of all, they're not a particularly nice bunch, which is not exactly furthering their cause.
    They seem to believe very strongly in human instinct, but I don't agree to the same extent as to how much it governs our behaviour. The entire forum is dedicated to generalizing the female perspective, which is inherently flawed. No two humans are the same, even in such basic ways as sexual preferences/mating preferences. While it may be possible to spot trends, trying to use those to develop a blueprint to picking up any woman based on those is, in my opinion, not going to be very successful. People in general don't like to feel like they're being played or used or that the other person has some ulterior motive that they aren't making clear. I think the best way to meet people is to just be yourself, but then again I've never been one to meet people with the intention of sleeping with them.
    Also, consider that there are some very nonsexual people out there that don't feel the need to have sex with anyone in the immediate future, "game" or not.

    I also think that a lot of the things that they call trends in female behaviour are trends in human behaviour from a male perspective. For example, many of the threads talk about women's supposedly innate desire to cheat on their partner, but I think that this is an issue faced by men and women equally. Theredpill is composed of mostly men, and men who likely wouldn't cheat on their partners at that (judging by their contempt for it). Because of this, any story you hear on there of cheating is pretty much guaranteed to be a woman cheating on a man, since it's a forum of men. It's enough to make you think that men never cheat and women are all unfaithful scumbuckets. But watch one hour of Maury and you get the complete opposite perspective. Maury is chock full of absent fathers who cheat on their selflessly giving wives and pretty much just don't care. But that's not the kind of story theredpill likes to cover because it doesn't further their view that unfaithfulness is some sort of genetic consequence of being a woman.

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    1. > They seem to believe very strongly in human instinct, but I don't agree to the same extent as to how much it governs our behaviour.

      Yet you provide no explanation as to why.

      > No two humans are the same, even in such basic ways as sexual preferences/mating preferences.

      This is patently false. Men and Women's sexual preferences are very predictable, there are tons of studies on this.

      > While it may be possible to spot trends, trying to use those to develop a blueprint to picking up any woman based on those is, in my opinion, not going to be very successful.

      We're talking about /r/theredpill, not /r/seduction. /r/theredpill is not about picking up women.

      > I think the best way to meet people is to just be yourself

      Tell that to the guy who sits in his basement and plays video games all day and masturbates to midget porn. Telling people that they don't need to change anything about themselves to be more desirable is a flat out lie, and cruel to some degree.

      > but then again I've never been one to meet people with the intention of sleeping with them.

      Yeah... ok.

      > Also, consider that there are some very nonsexual people out there that don't feel the need to have sex with anyone in the immediate future, "game" or not.

      Very small minority.

      > For example, many of the threads talk about women's supposedly innate desire to cheat on their partner, but I think that this is an issue faced by men and women equally.

      Not really. I think something like 70% of divorces are initiated by the Woman. Look up 'hypergamy'.

      > Because of this, any story you hear on there of cheating is pretty much guaranteed to be a woman cheating on a man, since it's a forum of men.

      Yes, true, but no one is there to talk about how men cheat on Women, so this is expected, and not at all surprising.

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    2. @4a seems to me like 4 was stating their "limited perception" a personal opinion from their limited experience with the site. So calm down. You're not getting discussion participation marks here, no one cares. State your own opinion about the site if you care so much about defending it.

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    3. 4a - This is all opinion. You're not doing anyone any good by claiming your opinions are any more valid than mine. Not only that but I was ASKED for my opinion. No reason to be mad about it.

      > Yet you provide no explanation as to why.
      Because from my personal experience human instinct is easily overridden by an abundance of necessities, as we have in our Western society. For example, the most basic human instinct would be to find food for you, and your children if they're hungry, even at the expense of someone else. In places where food isn't so abundant, you see a lot more people willing to steal, rape and murder to get the food that they need. But in Canada we don't have a shortage of food, so our instinct to 'do whatever it takes' to get food is quelled. Similarly, in our current society there are a lot of sexual opportunities, even for the least attractive of people. You can literally pay to have sex with someone and never see them again. When you know that sex is readily available to you, even if it's not with your preferred mate, it becomes a lot easier to put that on the back burner.

      > This is patently false. Men and Women's sexual preferences are very predictable, there are tons of studies on this.

      Read carefully. I said the same. I have acknowledged that there are predictable trends (in the next sentence). My point here is that the actions of the group cannot determine the actions of an individual, it can only predict them, and with a limited accuracy.

      >We're talking about /r/theredpill, not /r/seduction. /r/theredpill is not about picking up women.
      "I've been on theredpill a few times, so here is my limited perception of it"

      >Tell that to the guy who sits in his basement and plays video games all day and masturbates to midget porn. Telling people that they don't need to change anything about themselves to be more desirable is a flat out lie, and cruel to some degree.

      I never said that you don't need to change to become more desirable. I am suggesting that you don't need to become more desirable in order to meet someone compatible with yourself. Only to find someone incompatible. If what you like to do all day is lie around and play video games then how is it going to do you any good to date a girl who hates video games just because you think she's hot? That wouldn't last very long. In my opinion, it IS better just to be honest about who you are because while you might get rejected more, the person who does take you up on your offer is going to be someone who likes you for you, midget porn and all. Of course this is under the assumption that you're looking to date a girl, not just sleep with her. If you're just looking to sleep with a girl then all you need is like 50 bucks.

      >Yeah... ok.

      I have had one sexual partner who died 4 years ago so spare me your fucking sass.
      Just because you do something doesn't mean that you get to extend it to all humans and pretend they're lying when they don't act just like you.

      >Very small minority.

      Doesn't change that they're there.

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    4. >Not really. I think something like 70% of divorces are initiated by the Woman. Look up 'hypergamy'.

      Where is that statistic from? Even if it's a real number, I was discussing cheating, not divorce. Maybe 70% of women initiate divorce because 70% of men cheated on them in the first place. It would be helpful to know a breakdown of the reasons given for divorce. If 20% of those women got divorced because their partner abused them, can you really blame them? As for hypergamy, this is also something that can also go both ways. Most people will only marry someone that they consider to be equal to or "above" themselves. While the common example would be that a hot young woman marries a wrinkly old rich man, is that old man not also demonstrating hypergamy? The woman in this case places the man's value on his money, but the man places the woman's value on her looks. Just as she uses him to advance her social status with money, he uses her to advance his social status with the common status symbol of a trophy wife. And when her looks fade, he will probably dump her and move on to the next hot young girl who's going to make him seem like a high roller.

      > Yes, true, but no one is there to talk about how men cheat on Women, so this is expected, and not at all surprising.

      Not surprising, but it gives one a skewed perspective on the matter. I think it would put a lot more validity into some of their claims if they tried to address the other side of the issue.


      New post because I broke the character count... didn't even know there was one.

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  5. I always cringe when people try to discuss reddit anywhere like it actually matters..

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    1. There's /r/cringepics for that

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  6. Gender: Male

    I think that r/theredpill is shit, as are the hopeless forever alone neck-beards who fall for it. But I guess if my opinion isn't the same as those that subscribe to the redpill im just a dumb beta.

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    1. I'm not subscribed (or even go on reddit for that matter) and I still think your comment makes you a dumb beta.

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  7. Experts hate him! Girls always fall for this one weird trick!

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    1. 10/10. Perfect summary.

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  8. this is one of the most disturbing things i have ever been exposed to on the internet but i'm not surprised seeing as most of the idiots who sit on reddit all day are cave dwelling fedora warriors covered in dorito dust

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